Monday, February 06, 2006

 

The Valley of the End Theory

I first heard the concept of the AL as the Second Statue Guy from Odlam. So, thank you. Besides the general idea of it, everything else can be considered all me .....


This is very controversal. Threads have been created solely to disprove it: http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=79418 and there also are some theories that work really well with it: http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=78662 - Hope you enjoy.

I think the two statues from the Valley of the End are Shodai and the Akastuki leader ... and their friendship was somehow desolved due to differing ideas about using the Bijuu ... and setting up the current atmosphere and events. (this isn't an original theory - I can't find where I first heard it) I know I'm reaching but it also makes you wonder if Shodai died not so peacefully and at a former friends hand ... his soul was suspiciously young ...Shodai we know is dead. We don't know anything about the second statue guy ... and we don't know anything about the A.L.

They look oddly similar - and who else do we know (past or present) who sounds strong enough to face a living Shodaime (with his Mouton, Bijuu Control, and darkness Jutsu) and survive? Is it really so strange an idea to think the second guy might still be alive? Yes, that would make him older than Sandaime was when he died and about twice as old as the Sannin. But, if anyone could be this old, the Akatsuki Leader would be the guy. Remember, he was a former associate of Orochimaru, Mr. Immortality. AND we haven't gotten a good shot of him so who knows what the A.L. looks like.

What would be REALLY interesting is if we (the readers) ended up sympethizing more with the Akatsuki Leader than Shodai. What if Shodai was the one who wanted to use the dangerous Bijuu during wartime as such a huge threat (kinda like Nuclear weapons) that they scared all the nations into peacefulness by equally having such dangerous creature at their disposal. It might be the Akatsuki Leader who disagreed and just wanted the demons locked away or destroyed so that no one would ever be hurt again.

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Originally Posted by yasha ong:
From Chapter 291, it seems that the necklace Naruto is wearing is more than just a precious piece of jewellery. It seems that Shodaime and Yamato can control the Bijuus through the necklace by using some kind of jutsu. I remember Jiraiya said that the necklace was made from a very special type of material. Is it possible that the Tsunade's necklace and the Akatsuki's rings were actually made from the same kind of material and more fantastic still, this material doesn't belong to this world? This material might come from the world where the Bijuus or the Summons lived, probably the underworld and it may have some kind of power that can tame the Bijuus. However this power is accessible only to a few people in Narutoverse who know a special jutsu and the AL is one of the few. To the others who can't perform the jutsu, these rings and necklace are nothing more than some expensive jewellery. What do you think? Do you think the connection between the necklace and the Akatsuki's rings is possible?


Wow! I love it! I disagree with the ideas on the origin of the material (too Superman Kryptomite) in the jewelry ... but I really do think there is a connection - and it might be the connection is that it is the SAME material!

I do worry that there is no evidence they work the same way. We haven't seen a Akatsuki member "control" a Bijuu yet in the way it sounds like Yamato will control Kyuubi with the necklace - the rings instead have only helped to actually extract one .... but they haven't been shown to have an effect on the Jinchuuriki (either before or while transformed - it is suspicious that anytime Naruto or Gaara faced an Akatsuki member, they haven't transformed or been prevented from staying that way), so that is speculation.

Comments:
i like theories... : ) and yours are pretty cool...lol

now what would your theory be on the main purpose of the sharigan???

this was when itachi told sasuke to go and read the text in the clans hide out...
 
You know, nothing has really come to me or swayed me about a possible Sharingan purpose. I have heard some nice theories about police interigation and mind reading ... and also some about weeding out the clan. Its really a hard on to guess because we have so little information.
 
In chapter 309 the fox mentioned having met Madara Uchiha in the same way as sasuke. Also Sasuke was able to suppress the chakra of the fox and if Sasuke can it make sense that this Madara can aswell. So then does it make a little sense that the first and Madara might have been a team effort in controling tailed beasts? And that they might have been friends?
 
have you read this...interesting theory on madara

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=106576
 
A actual theory being braight up in my friend's forums, is that the A.L. statue isn't really the A.L. it's Madara, and the Shoidame Hokage. Pretty much the same thing. And that Madara is the Akatsuki FOUNDER, but not the Leader. That is why Orochimaru settled in the Rice Country (it's in the Rice Country, and Fire Country Border), to find out everything on Madara and why he wanted to make Akatsuki, and took Sasuke as his apprentice to unlock secrets only Uchiha would know, which eventually leads up to what Itachi told him.
 
I read once somewhere that the 2nd statue was madara uchiha who and it could be possible no one knows what time line that madara lived in anyways heck madara might be the al
 
thats so stupid....its uchiha mandara
 
Uchiha madara.........hmmm, toby said something that makes this an awsomely, and most positively corect answer
 
Okay, I know you probably know this by now, but it was proven that the "Akatsuki leader" looks nothing like that statue. However Tobi/Madara DOES. >>; So I'm going to completely agree with you since it's also been proven that Madara is the REAL Akatsuki leader. That probably IS Shodaime and Uchiha Madara. The resemblance is uncanny and it makes sense what with Kishimoto's apparent liking to history repeating itself. Sasuke and Naruto's fight there further proves your theory as well. Though I'm doubting the idea that Madara killed Shodaime, since that would foretell Naruto being killed by Sasuke. And how likely is that now, really?
 
Wow! The theory was correct! The second statue guy at VotE is A.L leader.
 
IT IZ PRETTY OBIVOUS THAT MADARA IZ NOT THE A.L. .ITS NAGATO. JIRIYA SUDENT. ITZ PRETTY IF READ OR WATCH NARUTO SHIPPUDEN.
 
The one who wrote Ma'N'dara: you're an idiot.
 
I know it's just not me... but I'm dying to see that fight... hahaha... even in the Manga... dang! just imagine... the high level jutsus used during that battle... Shodaime vs. Uchiha Madara... OOh yah!
 
My theory is that they some how found Obito's body(sharingan user), and used Orchiamaru's incarnation techinque to make obito madara's body, which would explain the tobi obito theory.

For more go to youtube.com and type in at the search engine: Naruto manga.
 
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Madara is the founder and leader of akatsuki, he and first were friends and they made konoha but had different opinions on how it should be run and they got into a huge fight at the valley of the end which is why they were carved into the the waterfall, to act as a reminder,and first won and Madara retreated, thats when madara created akatsuki and put Pain in charge and taught itachi how to unlock the mangekyo sharingan then help him defeat the uchiha clan, now hes posing as Tobi and secretly giving Pain orders but kisame is the only living akatsuki member that doesnt actually know Tobi is Madara. sharingan is so the user can mimic any jutsu they witness with perfect accuracy and also its a type of hypnosis and also gives the user an incredible perception of clarity and helps them track fast moving objects with ease
 
madara is the founder and leader of akatsuki, he and first created konoha then differed in opinions on how to run it, they got into a huge fight at valley of the end which is why they were carved into the waterfall, to commemorate the battle,after which madara fled and created akatsuki and place Pain in charge. now madara is posing as Tobi and secretly giving Pain orders. sharingan has three purposes-1-to give the user the ability to perfectly mimic any jutsu witnessed,2-to give the user incredible clarity of perception making it easy to track super fast things and even predict where they'll go next, 3- it works as a type of hypnosis.
 
it's 1st HOKAGE and madara UCHIHA.
makes sense caues naruto wants to be HOKAGE and sasuke is a UCHIHA
 
duh it Uchiha madara
 
aee its madar uchiha nd da 1st thats wer dey fought after da 1st found out about madars pact with the kyubbi (9 tailed fox) end in the end madars was deafeated by the 1st and dis is one of the reasons y the kyubi attacked konoha later on
 
Yeah, it is Uchiha Madara and the first Hokage as we know now, but look at the date - this was done in 2006.
But considering that Madara is the shadow leader of Akatsuki as Tobi, one must declare a win.
 
ok madara uchiha is not the founder he is the leader she is in tobi's body yes it is him in the statue he was the founder of the uchiha clan the only reson he is alive is cuz he is in tobi's body and he was the first person to unlock the mangekyou sharringan the second was his brother obito and when madara went blind from overusing the mangekyou he took his eyes and used them to see and combined his mangekyou wif his brothers to make the etarnal sharrigan thanks 4 reading
 
i cant remember what episodes they were but in a few of them tsunade told others such as kakashi and yamoto that the necklace naruto wears would kill anyone else though admittadly i cant remember the reason though i do remember her telling kakashi that.
 
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